In this episode we look at the art and psychology of descending the big mountains.

As Our Giro approaches the big mountain stages, Richard Moore, Lionel Birnie and Daniel Friebe we talk about some editions of the Giro d’Italia that have been decided going down hill.

We hear from American rider Christian Vande Velde, who suffered a bad crash on a descent early on in the 2009 Giro d’Italia. Vande Velde struggled with the mental aspect of descending in races and Daniel speaks to him about how he worked to conquer those fears.

We also speak to Steven Kruijswijk, the Dutchman who arguably could have won the Giro but for crashing into a snow wall on a descent in 2016 edition of the race.

There’s also a reminder of the Tiramisù World Cup and Lionel’s efforts at making the coffee-infused dessert are judged by Felicity Cloake. There’s also controversy from the turbo trainer in Our Giro.

The Cycling Podcast is supported by iwoca and Science In Sport.

The title music for Our Giro coverage is called Cozze by Amaraterra.


The Outside magazine article about downhill skiing by Jennifer Kahn.

The Visual Giro. We speak to legendary photographer Graham Watson about seeing the race through the lens of his camera. We also hear from Sir Paul Smith, who designed the maglia rosa in 2013, and Andy Storey, author of the Art of the Jersey, about Italian style on the bike, plus we learn about the colour pink.

What is the best-looking Italian cycling jersey of all-time? You decide. Starting tomorrow on our Twitter page is the Coppa Italia of Italian cycling jerseys. Vote for your favourites in the group stage from Sunday.

Our first film, And So We Rode… is available for Friends of the Podcast to watch now. This is the story of Larry Warbasse and Conor Dunne packing their bags and going on a bikepacking trip in the French and Italian Alps after their pro team Aqua Blue Sport folded mid-season. It costs £15 to sign up as a Friend of the Podcast and you will be able to watch the film as well as listen to all our special episodes.

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Science In Sport is The Cycling Podcast’s longest-standing supporter. It’s a relationship that stretches back to the 2016 Giro d’Italia. Listeners can get 25% off Science In Sport’s range of energy drinks, bars, gels and cakes at with the code SISCP25

This episode is also supported by Laka, a community of cyclists all working together to provide insurance cover for their bikes and equipment. To find out more, go to

If you have a smart turbo trainer, you can ride Our Giro on the RGT digital platform. Each stage is around 30 kilometres long and will be online for three days. Go to for details of how to download the app and sign up. Thanks to RGT and for helping us create Our Giro.

You may have to be quick but the first batch of Stacy Snyder’s Giro d’Italia mugs and cappuccino cups go on sale as soon as this episode finishes (assuming you started listening when it was first uploaded). This year, we are raising money for the Scuola Ciclismo in Cene, near Bergamo. This is a cycling school in one of the areas worst hit by the coronavirus crisis and a cause suggested by Team CCC’s performance coach Marco Pinotti in a recent episode. Go to Stacy’s Etsy page to buy the cups.

Our friends at have put together a ‘Selezione Our Giro’ case of 12 wines from around Italy. There’s also a ‘Baby Giro’ case of six bottles. Use the code ‘Our Giro’ when ordering. Cases can be delivered in the UK, excluding the Highlands and Northern Ireland, and a donation from each case will be made to the Scuola Ciclismo in Cene.